{"id":8623,"date":"2014-05-14T08:00:25","date_gmt":"2014-05-14T12:00:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/developer83.wordpress-developer.us\/culturecheesemag\/?p=8623"},"modified":"2014-07-08T11:59:55","modified_gmt":"2014-07-08T15:59:55","slug":"talking-cheese-big-cheese","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/developer83.wordpress-developer.us\/culturecheesemag\/talking-cheese-big-cheese\/","title":{"rendered":"Talking Cheese: The Big Cheese"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i style=\"color: #000000;\">In <\/i><a style=\"color: #000000;\" title=\"Talking Cheese: Introduction\" href=\"https:\/\/developer83.wordpress-developer.us\/culturecheesemag\/blog\/talking-cheese-introduction\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>this blog series<\/i><\/span><\/a><i style=\"color: #000000;\">, intern Julia explores the everyday language surrounding cheese, from etymology to idioms to associations. Learn why we \u201csay cheese\u201d when we take a photo, why once upon a time we believed that the moon was made of green cheese, or even the history of the word cheese itself. Last week we took a<a title=\"Talking Cheese: The Green Cheese Moon\" href=\"https:\/\/developer83.wordpress-developer.us\/culturecheesemag\/blog\/talking-cheese-the-green-cheese-moon\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> trip to the moon to search for cheese<\/span><\/a>. Plus, be sure to answer the prompt at the end of the post each week for a chance to win a copy of <\/i><b style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>culture<\/i><\/b><i style=\"color: #000000;\">\u2019s ultimate cheese pairing guide: <\/i><b style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>Cheese+ <\/i><\/b><i>Congratulations to<\/i><b style=\"color: #000000;\"><i> Susan<\/i><\/b><i>, last week&#8217;s winner.<\/i><b style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>&nbsp;<\/i><\/b><i><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Good luck to everyone this week!<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>&#8220;Big cheese&#8221; is one of those phrases I&#8217;ve never personally used (or even heard aloud) but it has still ingrained itself in my brain. It might have something to do with how regularly the terms pops up: on the signs of cheese shops and restaurants across the country; when my parents play Nirvana&#8217;s first album, <em>Bleach<\/em>&nbsp;(&#8220;Big Cheese&#8221; is a b-side); if&nbsp;I happen across&nbsp;<em>Dexter&#8217;s&nbsp;Laboratory&nbsp;<\/em>reruns on Cartoon Network (&#8220;The Big Cheese&#8221; came out in 1996).<\/p>\n<p>As it turns out, the idea of &#8220;big cheese&#8221; has less to do with the dairy product than I initially thought &#8211; although, given the track record of other phrases and associations we&#8217;ve explored, I guess that shouldn&#8217;t be too much of a shock! I had secretly hoped the meaning of &#8220;big cheese&#8221; stemmed from rich folks of ages past who acquired&nbsp;the most desirable and expensive of cheese specimens, but the origins are in fact much more humble.<\/p>\n<p>The prevailing opinion states that when the British were colonizing India, the settlers picked up the Indian word&nbsp;<em>chiz,&nbsp;<\/em>meaning &#8220;thing.&#8221; At this time in England &#8220;the real thing&#8221; was a popular phrase, and the settlers merged the two, creating &#8220;the real chiz.&#8221;&nbsp;When those who had been to India returned, spouting this new expression, the British likely changed the Indian term to a more familiar word: cheese. Alternately, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/01\/origin-expression-big-cheese-four-common-expressions\/\" target=\"_blank\">Today I Found Out notes<\/a> that the British in India may have heard&nbsp;<em>chiz<\/em> as&nbsp;<em>cheese<\/em> right from the start.<\/p>\n<p>All of this should be taken with a grain of salt, however, because no one seems to have any concrete evidence. There is no doubt that&nbsp;&#8220;chiz&#8221; was a slang term for &#8220;the thing&#8221; &#8211; in 1886 the word appeared in&nbsp;<i style=\"color: #252525;\">Hobson-Jobson: A Glossary of Colloquial Anglo-Indian Words and Phrases, and of Kindred Terms, Etymological, Historical, Geographical and Discursive.&nbsp;<\/i>According to the book, &#8220;chiz&#8221; described something authentic or top-notch. &#8220;The real thing&#8221; worked similarly, so while there it&#8217;s unclear how the two merged, it does seem very likely that &#8220;thing&#8221; became &#8220;chiz&#8221; and &#8220;chiz&#8221; became &#8220;cheese.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Soon, the phrase hopped the pond to&nbsp;America. In the States &#8220;the real cheese&#8221; became big, negative, and associated specifically with people. While some believe the changes were because of the <a href=\"https:\/\/developer83.wordpress-developer.us\/culturecheesemag\/cheese-bites\/giant-cheese-first-amendment\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Mammoth Cheese&#8221; made for President Jefferson<\/a> in 1802, giant cheeses were popular in general in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. These were created for publicity and self-promotion: A giant wheel of cheese would be displayed in public, to be cut up and distributed by a celebrity or politician during a large community event. Even Canada got involved. In 1893, a six-foot tall, 22,000 pound wheel was produced in Perth, Ontario. The massive cheese was transported by train to the Chicago World&#8217;s Fair. In these&nbsp;cases, these &#8220;big cheeses&#8221; would certainly have a negative association for at least part of the crowd.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_8664\" style=\"width: 383px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/developer83.wordpress-developer.us\/culturecheesemag\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/mammoth02.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8664\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8664\" src=\"https:\/\/developer83.wordpress-developer.us\/culturecheesemag\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/mammoth02.jpg\" alt=\"mammoth cheese canada\" width=\"373\" height=\"548\" srcset=\"https:\/\/developer83.wordpress-developer.us\/culturecheesemag\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/mammoth02.jpg 373w, https:\/\/developer83.wordpress-developer.us\/culturecheesemag\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/mammoth02-204x300.jpg 204w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 373px) 100vw, 373px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-8664\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.urbanmarket.com\/all-about-perth\/Welcome.html\" target=\"_blank\">all-about-perth.com<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p>Thankfully, America has given up on making giant cheeses, but the legacy lives on both in English vernacular and pop culture. Even the politicians are holding on &#8211; in January, President Obama held a &#8220;Big Block of Cheese Day,&#8221; where his staff answered questions from the American public through social media.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Truly enormous cheeses are hard to come by. <\/span><strong style=\"color: #000000;\">But if you had a giant wheel of cheese akin to Jefferson&#8217;s&nbsp;or Canada&#8217;s &#8220;mammoths,&#8221; what would you do with it? Share it? Keep it all to yourself? Carve it into a sculpture?&nbsp;<\/strong><span style=\"color: #666666;\">Answer in the comments section by&nbsp;May 20<span style=\"color: #808080;\">, 2014<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #666666;\">&nbsp;at 12:00 midnight EDT for a chance to win a copy of our upcoming special issue,&nbsp;<\/span><strong style=\"color: #000000;\">Cheese+<\/strong><span style=\"color: #666666;\">.<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&nbsp;The winner will be emailed and announced in<a title=\"Talking Cheese: Conclusion\" href=\"https:\/\/developer83.wordpress-developer.us\/culturecheesemag\/blog\/talking-cheese-conclusion\" target=\"_blank\"> next week&#8217;s post<\/a>!<\/span><\/p>\n<address>Photo Credit: Featured image&nbsp;<span style=\"color: #444444;\">\u00a9 Tim Bellen<\/span><\/address>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before &#8220;the big cheese&#8221; came to America, it was &#8220;the real cheese&#8221; in 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